Band Interview

INTERVIEW: Elbows

Phillipe Roberts

From the second I slip through the foam-white door into Cafe Cotton Bean and reach to shake Max Schieble’s hand, it’s clear that I’m interrupting something. Draped in a purple corduroy shirt adorned with a golden trumpet pin, he slides the cap over his pen and guides it back into his pocket. There’s the slight but familiar full-body sigh of an artist yanked out of the moment. “I actually haven’t gotten much time to just sit and draw lately,” he says, gingerly placing his notebook onto the table in front him, “I was really getting into it.”

But an innocent, almost bashful smile spreads over his face—no harm, no foul. We grab a pair of cappuccinos, sit down, and lean in. He guides me through his last few pages, filled with tessellated grids of anthropomorphic everyday objects—clouds, cars, hills, leaves—floating through negative space. Under his pen, they balloon into being with a goofy, animated warmth. It’s almost as if they’ve sprung to life unexpectedly, gate-crashing our reality from a Mickey Mouse dimension in the far reaches of his memory.

Max’s music as Elbows hits you in a similar way. From samples snipped out of Mr. Rogers’ Neighborhood on the Corduroy EP to the wavy psychedelia of his latest effort, Sycamore, rose-tinted nostalgia cuts through his work like a knife. “The Rain,” the opening track on Sycamore, spins into frame like a time-warp, reversing violently until a thunderclap brings Max in, beckoning you into his memories: “Through the cobblestones / Fish are swimming / Up, down, smothered in their coats / Bound homeward.” This kind of visual storytelling is a trick nicked from Philly rockers Dr. Dog, a band whose soft psychedelic touch is definitely part of his musical lineage. “You can definitely hear it in the harmonies I use,” he says, “But I love the way that their stories are so hard to piece together, despite the strong imagery.”

"The album is this journey back home,

and seeing all the changes that have taken place."

Born in San Francisco, but moving to New York for undergraduate studies at NYU, those opening lines from “The Rain” mirror his own musical journey over the past few years. It’s a journey that forms the central narrative of the album he’s been building towards, and that’s still coming together as we sip our coffee.

“The concept of the album is this journey back home, and seeing all the changes that have taken place,” he explains. “So Corduroy and those singles are kind of like short stories leading up to it. Sycamore was this street in the town that I went to school in, but I always lived far away and it was a huge pain to get there, so it became this kind of mythically significant place for me. This record is about trying to get back to that place.”

It’s been a long road indeed: Max has been working on some of these tracks, in some form or another, since 2010. “With ‘Windowpane,’ the main keys section is the oldest thing on this record. I had the chorus since 2010, but the verses I wrote last year,” he tells me. “I knew the lyrics would take more time, because those are the most revealing part of the music for me. The chords for ‘The Rain’ were done in early 2011.” But even as he started to collect band members and perform live, he felt that he needed more time before they were ready to put it down to tape. “It’s a story I’ve been trying to tell for a while, but it’s been a process of becoming a better musician—particularly with vocals. It took awhile for me to feel like my abilities were there to do these songs justice.”

“I wanted it to have a sound

like a blimp walking through the forest”

The grind pays off on Sycamore, whose songs are his strongest yet vocally, particularly due to Max embracing the odd, half-rapped vocal cadence that he began developing on Corduroy. Inspiration-wise, he’s eager to praise Frank Ocean, whose string of singles last year featuring a more prominent sing-rap swing struck a chord that goes back to his earliest musical memories. “The first song I remember writing was a rap about my Aunt Joyce and how she loves to shop. I showed it to my Mom and she said ‘I’m not too sure about that one,’” he laughs, “At the time I didn’t even realize it was a rap. I was just spitting out these monotonous, heavily rhythmic melodies. Basically scatting.” The technique’s stayed with him ever since. “I always have more lyrics than I know what to do with, and it’s easier getting around that with rap” Max says, grinning.

When I ask if there’s potential synesthesia linking his music and bubbly visual style, Max tells me that the connection isn’t so concrete for him. You wouldn’t get far, as a friend of his learned, “putting on a Mötley Crüe song and asking me what color it is.” Though he’s fine with the term, he thinks that a few too many artists have turned it into a played-out concept. Still, a rare instance of it occured for him on the song “Blimp,” and sent him searching for an impossible tone to match the image in his head. “I had this idea that I wanted it to have a sound like a blimp walking through the forest,” he explains. “I didn’t know what that sound was going to be for a really long time. It didn’t sound right for months, until I found these 808s that hit the spot.”

Those electronic touches are part of what makes Elbows’ music so wonderfully disorienting, even when they’re cloaked in catchy, immediate arrangements. “Psychedelic” is a bit of a loaded term, generally pushing listeners to expect something in the vein of ‘60s and ‘70s progressive pop like The Beatles or Pink Floyd. Oozing with slippery textures and teeming with effects, Max’s music aims to confuse and disorient in a similar way, but by looking at the spirit of those recordings rather than the tones themselves. “The sounds we consider ‘psychedelic’ came initially from electronic effects and experimenting,” he explains. It’s a lineage best carried on by electronic producers, he believes, naming Flying Lotus, Knxwledge, and Thundercat as artists he considers instrumental in forging a path ahead. To further break from the past, most of his processing ends up in the vocals or synthesizers, rather than guitars—a choice he credits to Bon Iver’s 22, A Million.

"But that concept, imagining that one person was literally

singing all of those things, stuck with me."

Even as the sonics for the record were starting to come together, it took a literal journey home to get a real spark going—an album about growing up just didn’t feel right without being surrounded by the places into which Max was trying to pull his listeners. And it meant bringing the band, some of whom also play in Space Captain and Alto Palo, along for the ride. “We went out to San Francisco in January of 2015,” he says, squinting into his memories for clarity, “and the first thing I did was take the band on a tour of all the spots on the album: ‘You know how in this song I mention the 2AM Club? This is that. Sycamore street? Here it is.”’

And when it came time to press record, it even involved discovering that a few places had been hiding secrets all along. “We were looking for a spot to record and it dawned on me that my next-door neighbor had a full studio in his basement. As a kid learning to play, he’d always let me borrow an amp, or some cables, but it was crazy to go down there and find this entire setup just waiting for us.” Stepping into the past often dredges up secrets, but few of us are lucky enough to find them intact and ready to be put to good use.

Before we part ways, Max returns to the question of psychedelia as you’d expect someone so perpetually steeped in nostalgia to: by spinning more childhood tales. “I have one memory of playing The College Dropout for my Dad, and he thought that Kanye was singing all of the samples,” he laughs. “He didn’t understand sampling at all, so he was going off about how this guy was insane. On the one hand it’s like, ‘Dad, that’s clearly Chaka Khan’s “Through the Fire.”’ But that concept, imagining that one person was literally singing all of those things, stuck with me. For me, that’s truly psychedelic.” With an album on the way, and an accompanying visual EP that’ll serve as a trailer, we can’t wait to see the ways that Elbows throws his expanding vision at the wall.

INTERVIEW: Dirty Dishes

Will Shenton

Every once in a while, one of our favorite bands from Brooklyn ends up on the wrong coast—namely, mine. When the annual Noise Pop Festival came to San Francisco a few weeks back, I was downright giddy to see that Dirty Dishes were on the ticket.

In the midst of a week filled with as many great shows as weird ones—iLoveMakonnen literally performing on a Tuesday fell squarely into the latter category—I caught up with the New York-based fuzz-rockers at a coffee shop before their killer performance at The Knockout with Wax Idols, Dinosaurs, and Carletta Sue Kay.

We chatted about the band's origins in Boston, the dream that drove lead singer and guitarist Jenny Tuite to pursue a life of grungy music, and when, exactly, Billy Corgan became such a weirdo. And while I own a camera, I'm pretty abysmal when it comes to actually using it, so bear with me on the photos.

ThrdCoast: So you guys are originally from LA?

Jenny Tuite: We spent time in LA, but we’re an East Coast band. We were in LA for a while, and we recorded our record out there.

Alex Molini: Yeah, Boston to LA, then back to Brooklyn.

TC: So how did you all get together in the first place?

AM: We met in Boston, just hanging out and knowing a lot of the same bands. We eventually got sick of the cold weather and moved to LA, and then we got sick of the warm weather and moved back to the East Coast.

TC: I’ve found that LA has a special kind of warm weather that’s pretty easy to get sick of.

AM: Yeah, it’s just the same every day! It gets boring.

Steve Bone: I was there for five years and it felt like one giant month [laughs]. At least you get fog up here.

TC: How did you get involved with Exploding in Sound?

JT: Dan used to live in Boston, and he’s come to pretty much every single show we’ve performed since the beginning.

AM: Back in the day when he was going to school, our band-best friend, Grass is Green, knew him as well and we played a lot together. He was just the guy at every. Single. Show.

JT: He used to just have the blog, Exploding in Sound, and then he started a label from there. He’s the best. He does all this stuff himself.

AM: He pretty much provides for 20 bands. PR, mailings, physical records, advice… Exploding in Sound is Dan Goldin.

TC: What are your individual backgrounds? How did you get into music?

AM: I started playing piano as a kid. One thing led to the next, this instrument and that instrument, and I just found that I wanted to do it all the time. That’s about it [laughs]. I teach music for a living—lessons at the moment, but I’ve taught at schools in the past—and I just do whatever I can to make sure that music is my job in some way or another.

SB: I started playing drums in middle school. I played in a lot of crappy bands over the years, covered a lot of Blink 182 and Green Day [laughs]. That was kind of my jam. I want to emphasize, we were crappy. The music was awesome [laughs]. I ended up going to school for mechanical engineering, and I realized that I couldn’t stand it and really wanted to pursue music. So I quit, and now I’m a recording engineer.

JT: You work at some dope studios.

SB: Yeah, I did the studio thing in LA for a while, but playing drums has always been a steady thing that I love.

JT: I played piano when I was little, and then when I was in sixth grade, I had this, like, half-hallucinatory experience one night when I was falling asleep. I heard all this wonderful, beautiful guitar fuzz, and it felt like it was raining. I woke my parents up in the middle of the night and said, “I need an electric guitar.” They looked at me like, what the fuck are you doing awake right now? [Laughs]. They told me to go back to sleep, but after a while I got one. It took some convincing.

TC: Wow, it literally came to you in a dream.

JT: [Laughs] yeah. I don’t usually tell people that, because they assume I’m joking.

TC: Who would you guys say are some of your biggest influences?

JT: Well, I probably listened to Siamese Dream by the Smashing Pumpkins a million times while I was growing up. So definitely that album, especially the guitar. I love that sound. We all like Radiohead a lot.

AM: Just kind of the ‘90s in general.

JT: Alex listened to Unwound a lot.

AM: Yeah, all that ‘90s shit [laughs]. Smashing Pumpkins, a lot of heavier stuff. Soundgarden, STP.

SB: STP!

AM: A lot of electronic music, too.

SB: I listened to a lot of the Pumpkins growing up as well, but I was more into Mellon Collie. As I got older, though, I shifted more into the Siamese Dream camp. I mean, it’s just a better album.

TC: I feel like I had the same progression. Mellon Collie was that transitional album between when Billy Corgan was pretty rad and when he became a total nutjob, but it wasn’t as far off the deep end as their later stuff.

SB: Yeah, exactly! That’s the thing, it’s 28 songs, and it only needed to be like 12. There’s a bunch of fluff, but those 12 are great.

AM: In short, we all like fuzz. Various shades of fuzz [laughs].

JT: My Bloody Valentine, too.

TC: What can you guys tell me about your songwriting process? Do you do everything together, or does one of you take point?

AM: Generally, Jenny makes a demo, with all the vocals, melodies, and forms.

JT: People always ask if I just write lyrics, but I do the guitars, too. I feel like I need to point that out [laughs]. I do the words last, and I don’t really like that part.

TC: So lyrics are always the last step?

JT: Yeah, but just because it’s my least favorite part of the process [laughs].

TC: Was the process of recording Guilty any different from your previous albums?

AM: Well, we recorded it all over. Only part was in LA.

JT: We actually recorded the B-side first, up in Chelsea, MA in this big, old masonry building. We were originally going to do to separate releases, because side A and side B were so different. We’d just been doing a lot of rock stuff and getting kind of bored of it, so we wanted to challenge ourselves to do something different. I don’t think the B-side has any fuzz at all, it’s a lot more sparse. The A-side was in our friend’s garage in LA—he’s a really good engineer. We haven’t really recorded in a proper studio before, we usually avoid that.

TC: What are you guys working on now?

JT: We’ve got some new stuff that we play live, but right now we’re really focusing on touring. After that, who knows?

INTERVIEW: Summer Twins

Laura Kerry

Summer Twins has been turning out a catchy breed of California-tinged garage and dream pop since 2008, but their history goes much further back. The band’s core members, Chelsea and Justine Brown, are sisters a year apart, and, as I learned from an email interview, they have been playing music together since their childhood in Riverside, California (an hour east of LA). The chemistry that comes from history and family is easy to detect in harmonies that are reminiscent of ‘60s girl groups, an easy confidence that evokes The Donnas, and a dynamic blend of sounds that is very much their own.

Chelsea and Justine wrote to me from SXSW, one stop on a jam-packed tour to promote their latest album, Limbo, released last October on Burger Records. Produced by Chris Woodhouse, who has worked with garage-rock greats like Ty Segall and Thee Oh Sees, the album reflects a slight shift towards a grittier side—a natural progression, they say, and one that might come from the struggle of creating art while trying to make a living as adults (“Never again will I be so young and free,” they sing on the track “Florence”). Later this week, Chelsea, Justine, and band members Michael Rey and Andy Moran take their tour minivan all the way up to Brooklyn, where you can catch them headlining our show at Babycastles. Get to know them here a little bit first.

Thrdcoast: Let’s start at the beginning. Chelsea and Justine, you two are sisters—have you always played music together? And are your parents psyched about it?

Chelsea Brown: Yeah, we've always played together and I think our parents are pretty stoked! They put us in piano and violin lessons when we were kids with the hopes of us playing together. That didn't quite stick, but we started our first band when we were 13 and 14 and have kept it going ever since!

TC: In the Limbo cover art, it looks like you’re lovingly and playfully fighting. Is that a pretty accurate depiction of your sisterly dynamic?

Justine Brown: I can see how that could represent our friendship, though it wasn't meant to. We do spend a lot of time together so we have our clashing moments, but they are quick. We know it's not worth it to keep arguing when we don't agree on something because it won't get us anywhere! We always end up laughing afterwards.

TC: How and when did Summer Twins start in earnest?

CB: We played in a band with our friend Mia called the Scandells for most of our teenage years. We all kind of grew out of it, and I started writing some new songs without any real direction. We took up the name Summer Twins in 2008 and always had a rotating lineup of friends. We've been playing shows consistently ever since and have progressed a lot with each album.

TC: Do you write songs together and if not, how do you divide writing responsibilities?

CB: I would usually write the foundation and lyrics of the songs and most of the guitar parts, then we would develop the song as a band and everyone would kind of add their own thing. Now Justine is starting to write a bunch (she wrote and played all of the instruments on "Helpless" and "Florence" on our new album, and recently started her own band called Easy Love), and we have two other songwriters in the band: our bassist Michael Rey (with his band the Woebegones) and Andy Moran (who leads the Shingles). They're all so talented! I'm used to writing alone, but I'm hoping to get more input from the rest of the band for our new stuff.

TC: In songs like “JuJu” and “Helpless,” the lyrics are very personal, while others sound more dreamy. Do you draw most of the lyrics from personal experience or is it more like storytelling? Or both?

JB: I've been drawing off of personal experiences for the most part. My lyrics are all over the place, but they mostly describe what I'm thinking or how I'm feeling about a specific person. I'm usually over-dramatic about stuff when I put it into a song because when I actually sit down to write, these feelings are what compelled me. They are all built up in the beginning and then they dissipate eventually.

TC: There’s a really wonderful balance in your music between a sweeter pop sensibility and a more fuzzed-out and gritty edge, with a little more of the latter in the last album. Is that grittiness something you intentionally sought out in making Limbo or did it come naturally?

CB: I think it came pretty naturally. I've always been really inspired by '50s music, which tends to have a more sweet, innocent sound, but I was also into fuzzed-out '60s garage and French pop. I think being immersed in the world of Burger Records and seeing so many great garage bands also inspired us a bit! I like the dynamic of the two sounds.

TC: How did you get together with Chris Woodhouse? What was it like to work with him?

JB: Lee from Burger Records suggested him. When we found out what other albums he had done for Thee oh Sees and Ty Segall, we knew that we would be getting the best production! He knows so much about equipment and getting the right sound. He also helped solidify some of my guitar and bass parts. He was really cool to work with.

TC: I read that you made Limbo in 10 days holed up in a studio in Sacramento. What was that like?

CB: It was really intense! We recorded 12 hours a day and only left the studio for breakfast and dinner, and it rained the whole time. For the most part it was just the two of us and Chris (Michael drove up to play bass on five tracks), and it's weird being isolated like that. You're kind of in this bubble, and you can't really tell what it's going to sound like until the very end. Chris is a master at analog recording and mixing and we were really happy with how it came out! I feel good knowing that we put so much into it, and as tough as it can be, I like when we can test our endurance and push ourselves. I love a challenge and I love being a slave to art :)

TC: How’s the tour going?

JB: It's going really well! I definitely have moments of uncertainty. This tour has been very DIY. It's kind of fun that every show is a mystery, but there are definitely ups and downs. The sound on stage (if there is any) is difficult in most situations. We have had some fans come out, though, and that reminds me why we are doing this in the first place. Our fans are so sweet and dedicated. We had to just get out there and play no matter how small the shows were going to be. I'm finally getting to the point in the tour now where I'm really excited to play. At the beginning I wasn't used to it and was tired before every show. In Eugene, I was basically napping while the other bands were playing, and the promoter offered me some tea. SXSW is exciting. It's great to be here. I've seen so many good bands already!

TC: How are you getting from place to place?

CB: We borrowed our parents' Toyota Sienna minivan and we PACKED it to the brim! We've got five people, all our equipment, our luggage and sleeping bags, and skateboards. It's nuts.

JB: We are so organized, though. I love it.

TC: Are you excited for the show at Babycastles? We are!

JB: Yeah, we are stoked! We haven't been to NYC in a while.

TC: And now for the requisite final interview question: What’s next?

CB: Michael and Andy (and our friend/merch guy Brad) all quit their jobs for this tour and Justine and I took a break from ours. It's the first time in a while that we've been able to fully dedicate ourselves, and I'm hoping that we can find a way to continue to do so when we get back. We’ve both got some new songs and we're eager to start working on the next album! Justine and I are hoping to expand our online store and get more into publishing (music for TV and commercials, etc.) so we can sustain ourselves. Also we're planning our first European tour and hoping to go back to Japan! We've got lots to do...

INTERVIEW: Acid Dad

Photo: Daniel Topete

Gerard Marcus

A few weeks ago we had the honor of sitting down with the boys of Brooklyn-based Acid Dad at the ThrdCoast studio in Ridgewood, Queens. We had a chance to discuss how they got started, how they go about making their music, why they decided to become musicians in the first place, and perhaps most importantly, their upcoming 50-show tour which kicks off this Sunday, February 28 at JJ's Bohemia in Chattanooga, Tennessee. If you haven't checked out their latest EP, which is officially out February 26, take some time to listen to the full stream below—it's a truly excellent piece of psych-punk. And make sure to see them out on tour if you can.

ThrdCoast: So you’re the barber of the group?

Vaugh Hunt: Yeah, I’ve cut everybody's hair so far, weather they like it or not [all laugh]. Sean and I were super drunk at the studio and I was like, “I want to cut your hair,” so I cut Sean’s hair.

Sean Fahey: It’s getting long now [laughs].

TC: Well, anyway, welcome guys! Thanks for coming. Let’s start off with a little background. Who is Acid Dad? How did you guys meet? How did the group form?

VH: Well, Kevin and I were in a band about a year and a half ago, and we decided we wanted to start our own band after recently becoming friends with Danny Gomez who played guitar and was interested in the same type of music we were interested in. We all just started jamming together and one thing lead to another, we wrote a lot of songs, started playing a lot of shows. People were into it so we started playing even more shows...

Kevin Walker: A lot of house shows.

VH: Yeah, a lot of house shows. During that time we went through a lot of freaking bass players, too [all laugh].

KW: Six.

VH: But finally we finally found Sean Fahey, this sexy beast that shreds so hard and is super cool.

KW: When we first started, Vaughn and I just wanted to start a rock and roll band, and I think we found Danny through a mutual friend named Reed. Danny was working at this restaurant called Testo, and we walked in and he was blasting the Brian Jonestown Massacre in the restaurant to piss some people off or something, and Kevin and I were like, “Yeah dude! Lets fucking jam. We’re on the same page” [all laugh].

VH: Yeah, it all happened very organically.

Danny Gomez: Well, that’s usually how it works right?

TC: Definitely, you need that natural chemistry. How long were you guys jamming together before you decided to make it official?

KW: About three months.

DG: Yeah, it was about three and a half months before we did our first show under our first name of Twincest [laughs].

DG: And that show was when we met Sean, actually, because his band Larry and the Babes were putting on like a Halloween show with some of our other friends. I was actually looking through my phone the other day and someone asked me why my contact for Sean says, “Sean Fuck Your PA.” It goes back to that night that we met you and you kept saying, “Oh, this fucking PA just sucks!" [all laugh].

KW: You’re still Danny Gonads in my phone [laughs].

TC: So Sean, how did you hear about these guys? Was it just at that show?

SF: Well, I was at their first show and thought they were really good, and then went to a lot of their other shows.

VH: We actually played a lot of shows with you and your other band. That’s how we really got to know him.

SF: Yeah! And then they called me one day and said their bass player wasn’t very good, so I was like, “I’ll come through.” I didn’t really have a bass at the time.

TC: You’re a guitar player?

SF: Yeah.

DG: You know what’s funny, I remember Wilson. Wilson had been like, “Sean and I are kind of fighting, we heard you want another bassist,” and we were like “Oh dude, Sean! That’s who we want!" [All laugh].

KW: We brought a bass guitar from Richie. Shout out to Richie! He's this really sick guy who’s been around for, like, forty years and sells fixed-up old Fenders out of his living room. And back in the day he worked with everyone. Danny, who did he work with?

DG: Oh, he did stuff with The Strokes. I think Lenny Kaye from Patti Smith...

KW: Yeah, he’s a legend. There's no address for his shop, you have to just call him. You just roll into his apartment. Yeah, Richie’s the best.

TC: Did you play bass before this?

SF: I’ve “played” bass, but I mean, it’s like, two fewer strings [all laugh]. You don’t really have to play chords. Bass is actually more fun because it’s like one long guitar solo.

VH: That’s the best way to put it.

DG: Like a thirty-minute guitar solo every night.

TC: So were you in the group while they were writing all the new material for this EP?

KW: He joined us two weeks before CMJ in October, so yeah, he’s been here through it all.

TC: And once you guys got this final group and decided to record an EP, what did you decide to make it about?

VH: Well, we had these structures of these songs and we kind of tested them out live. The concepts of the songs were still pretty vague, so we wanted to solidify them. But during the final week and a half of cutting the vocals and writing the lyrics with everybody, we realized that all of the songs were about crimes and just doing bad things, so we decided to name the EP after this Three 6 Mafia song called “Let’s Plan A Robbery”—which is one of my favorite songs from high school—and let the lyrics revolve around that. One song is about getting kidnapped.

DG: I think it’s a combination of the things we’re seeing and taking in around us, and things we are and aren’t liking in life that we want to twist and kind of see were they go.

KW: With the EP it took two or three tries in the sense that we would record something, then play those songs live and realize a certain part shouldn’t be in there, or another part should be longer.

TC: Refining it.

KW: Yeah, we’ve definitely re-recorded a few of these things.

DG: Because it’s like, if we’re bored with this, what is the audience thinking? So we want to try all these things before finally getting down what feels right.

KW: The song “Grim” was initially going to be on the EP, and that was recorded in August. Now this EP is coming out in February so, yeah, it’s a very long process.

VH: I think it was also important for us to know which songs aged well in our minds. I don’t always know about the audience's perspective, but there have definitely been some songs we’ve played so much that I just end up saying, “I’m tired of this, we have to move on.” And that's something that also helped us edit down this EP. It’s really fresh to us, and it has a pretty raw concept. I really like how it came out. It’s half in-your-face and half pretty chilled-out and melodic.

TC: I like how you guys use live shows as a major part of your editing process. Is that something you think you'll keep doing in the future?

VH: I think it will change a little bit, because this year we’ve been focused on being kind of a buzzy local band playing as much as possible, a lot of parties and stuff. But now we're going on tour, so the dynamic will definitely change. We’ll be playing a lot more in different contexts, and it’ll change how we write because we won’t have as much time. We’re doing a two and a half-month tour with almost fifty shows, so we aren’t going to have the down time to like practice and write new music as much. Unless we do, like, “Kumbaya” in the car or something [all laugh].

DG: The next one will be a gospel record.

VH: [Laughs] Yeah, so I think this next year will definitely change the way that we work, but I think it will be for the better.

TC: Is this your first big tour?

All: Yep.

TC: Excited?

VH: Yeah, super excited.

KW: For sure.

DG: We’re all newbies. We’re fresh, so I think it'll be a good thing.

TC: You said fifty shows in two and a half months?

All: Yep.

TC: Man! That’s going to be a lot.

KW: Yeah, but we’ll get to escape a good chunk of the northeast winter. We’re going south.

TC: Are you guys driving?

KW: Yeah, I actually just got a van. Sold my old Subaru and brought a big-ass Ford.

VH: We haven’t figured out a good system for this car yet.

KW: Yeah, my last car was a little too small, but we figured out a way to pack it that made it work. Don’t know what we’re going to do with this one yet.

TC: Are you taking a full drum set with you?

KW: That’s a good question.

VH: I don’t know? I think we should.

KW: Yeah, probably. If a venue has a nice kit I’ll just go ahead and use that but a lot of these places are really DIY, so...

VH: Our biggest fear is getting broken into on tour. It just happened to another band from here.

TC: That's the worst.

KW: They’re the worst type of people!

SF: We have a really good car alarm.

VH: We do have a really good car alarm.

KW: Yeah, it has these blue lights that blink super bright.

VH: And it’s really fucking loud.

TC: Well, hopefully that'll be enough to drive any thieves away.

KW: Yeah, we hope so.

TC: So when did you guys record this new EP?

VH: We just finished it, like, two weeks ago.

DG: Yeah, and early December is when we started working on it.

VH: It was during Christmas, because I remember mixing it over Christmas.

TC: Did you mix it all?

VH: Yeah, I mixed it and we got it mastered by a wizard up on the Upper West Side.

TC: A wizard?

VH: Yeah, he’s a fucking wizard! Alan Silverman.

KW: He’s got, like, thirty Grammys up on his wall. He’s just amazing.

TC: Where did you guys do the recording?

KW: We have a studio. My grandpa lives upstate about an hour and a half up in Brewster, New York, and he has this weird cabin on the side of his house. His wife and daughter work there. His wife is an art dealer or something, and her daughter makes weird handbags. But they have this little attic part, and over the last year and a half Vaughn and I have amassed a lot of gear, so we decided to turn that space into our own studio.

TC: Do you guys engineer all your stuff too?

KW: Yeah! And it’s the perfect place to record. It’s gorgeous, beautiful, just the perfect place to do whatever and relax.

TC: Seems like a good setup.

KW: Definitely.

VH: It’s a really great spot. We’re actually heading back up there tomorrow. Sean and I spent all of last week writing.

SF: And cutting each other's hair...

VH: [Laughs] And cutting each other's hair. So we’re going to go back up next week to do the second round of writing, and try to finalize some stuff for newer music to come out later.

TC: Are you thinking of doing another EP, or are you going to do a full album?

VH: We're currently talking about exactly what we’re going to do next. We've got a lot of different ideas going around about what’s the right thing to do at this point with the level we’re at as a band.

SF: The stuff we’re working on is more just so we have new material to play on our fifty dates.

VH: Yeah, that’s the real goal. Which is great because we’ve come up with a lot of stuff, so on tour we’ll have a sold amount of songs to play.

KW: Something like twenty.

DG: It’s gonna get funky.

VH: It’s gonna get real funky [all laugh].

TC: All right, I think I only have one more question, which is kind of a corny one. Why did you guys decide to become musicians?

KW: Oh, man!

VH: That’s a real good question.

SF: My dad was a musician. And I just can’t get away from it, I guess?

TC: It’s just in your blood?

SF: I guess, yeah. I didn’t have many babysitters or things like that growing up. My dad would just, like, lock me in a room with a Fender twin reverb and a guitar even when I didn’t know how to play it. I didn’t know what to do so I would just turn the guitar all the way up and wait for it to feedback until it was just so fucking loud [laughs]. So, yeah, I would have to say my dad is always right there. He’s also super proud, so...

KW: I was listening to rock and roll when I was, like, three, but I don’t know why. My mom and dad both aren’t musicians and they wonder all the time why my brother and I got so into music, and really I have no explanation at all. Looking back it seems completely random.

VH: I thought part of it was your grandpa, though?

KW: He bought me a drum set! My grandpa, the same grandpa that has the studio, bought me a drum set, but by that point I was already really into Beastie Boys and The Offspring [all laugh].

VH: I fucking love The Offspring.

KW: I honestly don’t know why, but my parents were cool with letting me drift into any world I fell into, which was great.

TC: Did you ask for the drums?

KW: No, my grandpa woke me up and said, “You’re going to be a musician. What do you want to play?” And I remember saying drums because I didn’t want to be in the front of the stage.

TC: How about you, Danny?

DG: I don’t know, man, I just have to do it in order to stay sane and peaceful [laughs]. I listen to and think about music way too much.

TC: Like a form of meditation?

DG: Yeah! It’s always there in the back of my head. Even if I’m not thinking about it it’s pushing through, and sometimes it feels like if I don’t do it it’s going to haunt me or something.

TC: Are there musicians in your family?

DG: Actually yeah, a lot of string instruments. That’s how I picked up on it, an uncle of mine was a folk artist and he told me I should pick up the guitar. Then I just picked it up and taught myself a bit.

VH: At a really young age my mom was like, “You should try to take piano lessons.” And I was just like, “Okay, cool,” and we found this really cool piano teacher. She really loved working with me, so from a very young age I had a really tight relationship with my piano teacher. I wasn’t very good at all, but she liked me even more for it because she taught all these prodigy kids who play Carnegie Hall now, and I was the one kid who questioned the music, asking things like “Why can’t I do this here?” I was also one of the first to play my own compositions for her. So I guess it really all started there with her, and because she was so supportive I felt that I could just keep doing more music. I really enjoyed it.

KW: I also think for all of us, and also for a lot a musician friends I know, it’s an unwillingness to live any sort of prescribed lifestyle. It’s usually the kind of open-ended adventurous people who end up being musicians.

VH: Yeah, for sure.

TC: The type of person who doesn’t feel comfortable with settling.

KW: Yeah, and who are happy to not feel comfortable with settling. That's an important point.

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Acid Dad 2016 tour dates:

02/28 — Chattanooga, TN @ JJ’s Bohemia *
02/29 — Athens, GA @ Caledonia Lounge *
03/02 — Greenville, SC @ Independent Public Alehouse *
03/03 — Raleigh, NC @ Neptunes *
03/04 — Winston-Salem, NC @ The Garage *
03/05 — Charlotte, NC @ Neighborhood Theatre *
03/07 — Columbia, SC @ The Art Bar *
03/09 — Atlanta, GA @ The Earl *
03/10 — Savannah, GA @ Savannah Stopover
03/13 — Denton, TX @ 35 Denton
03/15–20 — Austin, TX @ SXSW
03/21 — Colorado Springs, CO @ Flux Capacitor #
03/23 — Fort Collins, CO @ Downtown Artery
03/24 — Denver, CO @ Lost Lake Lounge
03/25 — Salt Lake City, UT @ Diabolical Records
03/26 — Boise, ID @ Treefort Music Fest
03/30 — Portland, OR @ Mississippi Studios
04/01 — Seattle, WA @ The Vera Project
04/06 — San Francisco, CA @ The Rickshaw Stop
04/07 — San Diego, CA @ Soda Bar
04/08 — Los Angeles, CA @ The Lost Room
04/12 — Phoenix, AZ @ Valley Bar
04/14 — Austin, TX @ Mohawk
04/15 — San Antonio, TX @ Paper Tiger
04/16 — Dallas, TX @ Three Links
04/18 — Springfield, MO @ The Outland Ballroom
04/19 — Columbia, MO @ Cafe Berlin
04/20 — St. Louis, MO @ The Demo
04/21 — Chicago, IL @ The Empty Bottle

* = w/ White Reaper
# = w/ Mothers, New Madrid, Holly Macve